- 1 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/05/11(日) 12:14:09 ID:SzouoRQT]
- ■前スレ
『太陽誘電』専用スレ その19スピンドル pc11.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/cdr/1205656600/l50 DVD-Rもマクセルが台湾に移管が決まり、TDKは記録型CD・DVD製品生産からの撤退 CD-Rの時と同様に唯一の日本製メディアになりそうな太陽誘電についてマターリ語るスレです コストダウンに伴い品質低下が叫ばれる中、かつての品質に戻ることはこの先あるのか? ■関連スレ 焼いたDVD系メディアをひたすら計測するスレ Vol.10 pc11.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/cdr/1194166447/ 焼いたCD-RをひたすらCD Doctorで計測するスレその2 pc11.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/cdr/1054993776/ DVD-Rの品質を格付けするスレ 21枚目 pc11.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/cdr/1204386118/ 秋葉原 DVD-R 安売り店情報 18号店 pc11.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/cdr/1183164157/
- 452 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/05(火) 12:12:40 ID:O5sPufaP]
- 03で…保存…だとぅ?
重要な…データを…選りに選って…03に… ……。
- 453 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/05(火) 18:40:30 ID:sPPfCGt9]
- 重要なデータの場合複数のバックアップ取るだろw
- 454 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 [2008/08/05(火) 21:34:45 ID:2E6jNEeU]
- DVD-Rだけに保存するのは勇気いるなw
- 455 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/05(火) 22:17:34 ID:PWcO7m7n]
- TYG02なら問題ないと思っていたが?
- 456 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/05(火) 22:30:34 ID:O5sPufaP]
- うん問題ない。
全然おっけー。 01なら尚良し。
- 457 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/06(水) 14:47:05 ID:SIxq6k6b]
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∩___∩ | ノ ノ ヽ、 ヽ / ● ● | | ( _●_) ミ ププッ 彡、 /⌒)(⌒ヽ/ ./ / / \ ヽ l ノ `ー‐'
- 458 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/07(木) 13:43:10 ID:j5bN7Kv3]
- 8倍で焼いてもだめなのか?>TYG03
- 459 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/07(木) 19:27:07 ID:Dd4GXHgs]
- やいてみりゃわかる
- 460 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 [2008/08/08(金) 20:32:48 ID:b5Xdvlo7]
- >>458
03に限らず、最近の誘電は品質がバラツキすぎる 一つのスピンドルに神もあれば糞もあったり・・・
- 461 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/08(金) 21:45:46 ID:yBXQ17O4]
- そんなに焼きミスって起こる?
TYG02を500枚焼いてるが、焼きミス起こしたの2枚だけ 一枚はリング状の傷でかなり前、 もう一枚は重いソフトが起動しちゃって、バッファが間に合わなくなって・・・ 一般に知られたブランドのメディアなら焼きミスなんて滅多に起こらないでしょ? ブラザーのメディアが10枚全滅したことあったけど
- 462 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 [2008/08/09(土) 10:28:26 ID:J9BdI8wf]
- だからTYG02には何の問題も無いっつってんだろ
03だよ03 読めるか?03だよ
- 463 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/09(土) 11:58:45 ID:9PjEKJuc]
- 03は去年半年使ってたけど焼きミスなかったよ、120枚ぐらい
- 464 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/09(土) 12:48:53 ID:NXw9yQxG]
- 焼き品質と、その後の耐久性はどうなのよ?w
それが重要でしょうがw
- 465 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/09(土) 13:33:37 ID:Om+7SlH2]
- >>464
焼き品質は特に問題ないだろ 耐久性はわかんないから、取りあえずおまいが耐久性がないってデータ出してくれよw
- 466 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/09(土) 15:37:13 ID:hWSkmXqD]
- 東京03
- 467 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/09(土) 16:10:25 ID:WPP9lB37]
- 耐光性は落ちてる。
- 468 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/09(土) 22:57:57 ID:bPdmo7+T]
- 最近視力が落ちてきた
- 469 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/10(日) 10:28:39 ID:/mQKMLGG]
- おれも
毎日16時間50センチ先のモニタ見る生活してたら 3メートル先のテレビのテロップ読めなくなってきた
- 470 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/10(日) 10:57:49 ID:s26ZG0xk]
- じゃあ50cm先にテレビを置いて、
3メートル先にモニターを置けばいいお!
- 471 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/10(日) 12:04:17 ID:/mQKMLGG]
- あ、昨日ソフマップで買ったTDKのR調べたらTYG02だった
2000円で良い買い物したお( ^ω^)
- 472 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/10(日) 12:22:05 ID:1WuTeEPS]
- >>471
しばらくセブンイレブン受け取りの1699円誘電OEMビクター祭してたのに 2000円も出してプッ
- 473 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/10(日) 17:29:44 ID:IuGuqj46]
- 54 名前:[名無し]さん(bin+cue).rar[sage] 投稿日:2008/08/10(日) 17:19:59 ID:cujzh2yx0
[写真集][IV] Administrator(20080810-145806)のアルバム.zip 134,114,677 427b0eb573b97c0e83d686de183c5cc48eab651a 太陽誘電榛名支部の皆様の楽しそうなお姿。 エロ等は無し。 O 「「「l o \. V7 ○`) | | r‐、 (⌒) o | | >、,> ____`o ○ | | | | ┏━━┓ ┏┓ ┏━━┓ // |O。゚-ト、. | | | ┏━┓ ┃ ┏┛┗┓┃┏┓┃ //| /( ) ∩ |o. | | | /\ | | ┃ ┃ ┃ ┗┓┏┛┃┗┛┃┏━━|//| | | | | / | | ̄`l━━━/\━━━┓┃ ┃ ┏━━┛ ┏┛┗┓┃┏┓┃┃ |//| ( ) \_| |─/ /く | / r、/`ーっ. ┃┃ ┃ ┃ ┗┓┏┛┗┛┃┃┗━━|// \ | / / | \/\/━`ー'" ━┛┗━┛ ┃ ┃┃ ┃┃ |/ ヽ__ // / | / ┏━┓ ┗━━━ ┗┛ ┗┛ mn____|___r──l__/ | / ┗━┛ ヽ_______|__ノ────' ──''"
- 474 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/10(日) 18:14:21 ID:2HIiaX37]
- >>472
運賃300円と考えれば、まあOKにしてもいいかも
- 475 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/10(日) 19:21:00 ID:R7njtZos]
- >>460
同意!! 俺がこないだ買った20枚のスピンドル 8枚くらい焼けなかった よしんば焼けたにしても再生不良だったりして
- 476 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/10(日) 20:11:46 ID:ZjuXfbky]
- 50枚ほど焼いてみて、失敗なしだし、ちゃんと読める。今の所は・・・・
- 477 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 [2008/08/11(月) 01:38:56 ID://lEmoEu]
- 工業製品だから希に不良はあるだろうけど、8/50の割合で失敗するなら
それは自分の環境を疑うべきだろう
- 478 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/12(火) 04:37:28 ID:PrSJU6qs]
- >>475
連続焼きしてないか?最低でも5枚くらいにして、30分くらいしてから連続して 焼くんだお
- 479 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 [2008/08/12(火) 12:05:56 ID:PIoYDubX]
- OEM品のTDKパッケは終息なのか。こりゃますます需要が細ってるねぇ。
- 480 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 [2008/08/12(火) 16:35:23 ID:ZEVhIdCs]
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- 481 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/12(火) 16:39:47 ID:ZEVhIdCs]
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- 482 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/12(火) 16:42:55 ID:ZEVhIdCs]
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- 483 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/12(火) 16:43:38 ID:DO/XG7jx]
- 最近はドライブのほうの品質劣化もあるからなー
- 484 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/12(火) 16:44:23 ID:ZEVhIdCs]
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- 489 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 [2008/08/12(火) 17:15:02 ID:HGvYK4yx]
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- 490 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 [2008/08/12(火) 17:17:07 ID:ZEVhIdCs]
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- 491 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 [2008/08/12(火) 17:18:16 ID:ZEVhIdCs]
- 2008/07/07(月) 13:43:47 ID:OjV3MtiG
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- 492 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/12(火) 18:02:30 ID:pn6A8HHK]
- >>479
どういう意味?
- 493 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/12(火) 22:02:51 ID:ZFvbv+UK]
- DVD-Rにセラコ全く意味なし
- 494 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/13(水) 08:35:10 ID:a6CZiJT8]
- なんでやねん
- 495 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/13(水) 16:11:15 ID:q7Lq5Zyv]
- 確かに意味無し
- 496 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 [2008/08/13(水) 17:23:42 ID:+FeSI2Ju]
- DVD-RとCD-Rの構造の違い考えれば当然だな。
CD-Rのセラコは記録層を守る盾としての機能性をもっていたけど レーベル面側にもポリカ層があり記録層の保護をする必要のないDVD-Rにおいて セラミックコートを施すことの無意味さ。
- 497 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/13(水) 18:08:36 ID:tuMwk+GX]
- プリンタブルが嫌い
それだけで十分
- 498 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/13(水) 18:10:15 ID:q7Lq5Zyv]
- まあ、プリンタブルよりはマシかもしれんが
- 499 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/13(水) 18:35:21 ID:y1htW7fy]
- 誘電はプリンのほうがハズレが少ないのがナァ
- 500 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/13(水) 18:50:34 ID:uG2aV8Ug]
- 火傷サバイバー=枝鯖イバー
- 501 名前:名無しさん◎書き込み中 mailto:sage [2008/08/13(水) 19:24:33 ID:LuRLp0mn]
- K'sオリジナルDVD-Rx16 60スピン1661円
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