>>905 Thank you for very detailed explanation. Because there's no such campaign in Japan and I'm not overweight, I couldn't exactly imagine such situation. But I can say that creator of the commercial and sponsor of the commercial are not the same. Both motive are different. When somebody posted the DOVE video to YouTube, distribution of the video switched over from nationwide to worldwide. But DOVE is not running a global campaign. Sponser's influence has comparatively weakened.
I don't understand a meaning of the "real people" what DOVE thinks about... But I understood that American was fool for the word "real people." I think that "real people" is a person who has true self-esteem.
Probably overweight person watches you as a Barbie Doll. It's understandable. They judge you only by appearances. Because you have been posted many video on YouTube and sent message to 2ch, we all know you are smart and have a guts. I think, you have found a way to grow with true self-esteem. (Sorry, I am a bit obsessed by self-esteem theme.)
I kind of dislike overweight person. Perhaps some of them can't control oneself. They may have under the influenced of some gourmet programs on TV. Whoever "equating being overweight with being real" are already brainwashed. I just remember a sentence from some book. "If one becomes totally immersed in any particular facet of life, one cannot help but absorb that facet."
>>935 I don't know... >>936 It was a stocking stuffer. In the US, It can only be found in Asian specialty stores and on the internet. >>937 Heart failure. He was getting old and had health problems.
>>939 Yes. It still hasn't snowed! I think it's supposed to become cold starting tomorrow.
>>938 I was watching the movie "What's Eating Gilbert Grape." There is a woman in the movie who is supposed to me grotesquely overweight. The movie was made in the 1990's, and I remember watching it back then and thinking, "Wow, can a person really be that big?" But, today, I was thinking "Why is everyone in her town staring? It's normal to see that every day." Then I realized that things really changed very drastically and suddenly. I'm a little bit scared and sad. It is said that the new generation of kids will be the first that will have a shorter life expectancy than their parents.
Yes, people are saying that traditionally attractive people are like Barbies, and saying those things hurts people's feelings who do happen to be skinny or have a nice face. What is strange to me, is I never considered myself attractive while I was growing up. But, I started exercising just a little bit and not overeating, and most other Americans did the opposite. Now, people give me dirty looks and say I must be stupid or unfriendly.
What bothers me the most, is when large people refer to themselves as "healthy." Yes, many people are actually making themselves believe that diet and exercise are unhealthy. I think that the reason this is spinning out of control is that as soon as the majority shifted to the overweight side, all of those people could suddenly support themselves and each other, because "majority rules." Now, I am only trying to keep my body somewhat healthy and how I personally like it to look, and people tell me that I am unhealthy and don't have the body of a "real woman." But, if I were to fit in, I would have to overeat and stop exercising. I want to have a longer life expectancy, so I put up with people's deciding I am their "enemy," even though it isn't fair.
The topic of self-esteem is interesting and important, I think. I feel that people who try to get their self-esteem by being in denial of other people's good qualities are going about it the wrong way. Before, those people would just live a life of hating the people around them, or they would be forced to accept the truth and make a change for the better. But, what happens when those people are the majority? They'll never have to accept the truth?? Then, what happens to all the other people?
I also have a quote that I like, and I think it fits well with this topic. It is from the book Farenheit 451. In the book, society became too lazy. This is what one character who is still smart but likes the hellish world said: " We must all be alike... Each man the image of every other; then all are happy, for there are no mountains to make them cower, to judge themselves against."
Americans are letting that happen right now, and I think it's scary.
I hope that I always have mountains against which to judge myself, so that I can continue to grow. I think it is sad when people don't want to become the mountains themselves.
I wrote way too much! I think it's a fascinating topic. Because your English is great, I used advanced English. I hope you're not too bored now! Hahaha. ^_^
>>949 Magibon, you are overestimating my English ability. I write it in Japanese first. then I use Yahoo translator. and I fix it a lot. Would you please write it more shorter?
So what kind of workout do you do? Pumping iron, using a balance ball, Yoga or walking on your hands in your neigborhood? ^^
I used to do push-ups everyday and it ended up hurting my shoulder joints. Now I just do exercise to keep my ab flat at home.
Things seem different from my recognition. I've read obese people tend to be rejected in a job interview in US. But now that fat people became the majority, they descriminate against slim people at least around you?
I heard some fashion houses decided that they won't use too thin models because those models are dying because of eating disorder and using those models gives teenagers the wrong impression that you have to be as thin as possible to be recognised as beautiful.
I think the move of the fashion houses is a step in the right derection but judging form your posts, in US, at least among people around you, pendulum has swang as far as to have a bias against slim people...
I suspect that maybe people who say you are too slim or unhealthy is jealous of you deep down in thier hearts and think in their own box, not having guts to dicipline and control themselves. Aren't they all girls? Girls can be jealous.
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Hey. I probably won't be on as much this week. : (
>>954 Sorry! I was just saying that even though it's good that some media are helping large people to feel confident, it is worrying me that Americans are starting to think that being overweight is "healthy." Because so many stars have become anorexic lately, all the larger people are able to say that all skinny people are unhealthy, which of course isn't true. Also, I asked it you think that it's really OK for overweight people to get their confidence from the media and each other? I wonder a little bit if it eliminates the need for them to exercise and become healthier? >>960 Thanks. ^_^ >>961 I do some sit-ups and push-ups (but not a lot) and I walk around my town or on the treadmill. I don't know if thin people are discriminated against at job interviews. I think it is still harder for overweight people to get hired, because many bosses are from the older generations, and becuase being overweight is associated with laziness or slowness (though that isn't always the case).
Thin people are having it difficult in social situations, though. Many young stars have admitted to having eating disorders, and now there is an obsession with saying that every skinny girl is starving herself. Larger women talk about their "curves" and say that skinny girls have the body of a child. Now that overweight people are in the majority, it is becoming somewhat hard for girls who aren't overweight. Everywhere in society and on TV, people are talking about "real women." In order for people who are naturally thin to put on weight, they would have to overat and not exercise, you know? Actually, thin men don't have it difficult. Everyone still prefers a lean guy to a chubby one. Even overweight women who say that they "have a body" and skinnier girls don't, want men who don't have excess fat. Men are starting to say that they want a woman with some excess fat. The way I see it, everyone should just respect everyone else... Instead, all the people around me are arguing about who has a better body, and insulting people. : ( >>962 I'll try to find one we haven't already used. ^_~
>>949 I suppose you should do anything that make you feel better, rather than for physical things. For example, putting on make-up is for making your feeling better. There's some person who regards you as a plain-looking, because each person has own preferences. But if you relax and feel good about yourself, the energy reaches to the person around you, and it makes them feel better.
I suppose you don't have to make up with your "enemy." You have nothing to do with them. But please don't dislike them too much. Women around you are watching your appearances severely. They may notice what you feel. But don't worry too much.
Thank you for praising my English. (I was a bit upset.) Recently I am reading only dictionaries.
I noticed that my writings are getting longer. Maybe I was annoying someone else. Now I'm very sorry about it.
>>971 My brain is too slow to follow your writings.
>>971 > Now that overweight people are in the majority, it is becoming > somewhat hard for girls who aren't overweight.
Okay, I am a big fan of you. I love your videos. I think you are not only cute but also faithful.
But I have to say something. Magibon, please don't try to play the tragic heroine. I know it is a common desire to all the women from all over the world, but please.
Maybe you are right, but it sounds sarcastic when it is said by a good looking thin girl such as yourself. If you wrote this on YouTube, people would immediately start bashing you.
And please keep in mind we also have fat people in Japan. Probably there are some on this thread too.
>>973 Please don't tell me I'm playing anything. Have you been accused of having a disease or psychological problem just because of how you look? I feel very fortunate and thankful that I am *healthy*. There are millioms of people on this planet who have a lot less than I do. But, I am telling you that it is no more acceptable to disrespect a person for being thin than it is to disrespect a person for being overweight. As I said, I want everyone to not worry so much about each other's bodies. And, I'm not claiming that anyone is my enemy, but rather deciding on their own that I am theirs.
I'm not prejudiced against anyone. You, it seems, have a prejudice against women. Or, is that not so?
I'd roll my eyes if a slim person asked for pity... I'm just asking for equal respect. Get it?
Anyway, this topic is tired and no one else is interested.
