Those who are spouting crude spite are Jiminto(LDPJ) net supporters. Spending a lot of funds, they do it as daily work. In fact, it was found in old days that Diet member of Liberal Democratic Party (Japan) had been related to a certain case: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Beldam, shut up!", Hirai said to Ms. Fukushima at debate of representatives. By Tokyo Shinbun in June 29, 2013. web.archive.org/web/20130629083403/http://www.tokyo-np.co.jp/article/politics/news/CK2013062902000121.html At an internet debate of party's representatives in June 28, there was heckling to other representatives by Takuya Hirai of Diet member of the House of Representatives, who is a centre chief of the Liberal Democratic Party Net Media Centre. This debate was broadcasted by "Niconico Doga" of a web movie site. Users can cast messages to the debate from PCs and smart phones. And the messages appear on screen. Which rocks the impression. While Mr. Hirai listened to debate in the broadcasting place, "Beldam, shut up!", he wrote when Ms Mizuho Fukushima spoke. "Is Hashimoto on the run?", he wrote after absent announcement of Toru Hashimoto who is a representative of Japan Restoration Party. Meanwhile "Abe-pyon, go for it!", he wrote for Prime Minister Abe. As for this, he said as follows to our interview, "Excuse me but it is the same as something like heckling in Diet. It didn't emerge on screen, I think." [NOTE: "Abe-pyon" is a nickname of Prime Minister Abe, which was granted from the above centre to put a cute impression on the people.] -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>786 Hi, we have a lot of broken stuff. We had some bad internet weather the last few days. I am hoping for blue skys and a minimum of 1000 and 3 for navigation by Wednesday. Please wait a while and we will get to it. 頑張ります
>>789 I'm not Jim-san, but there once was a feature called "!attack: !heal:" where you can attack or defend the thread you like or dislike, resulting in thread-stop.
It was very troublesome, however it can be better and amusing if it only displays "popularity" of thread or response instead of killing the thread.
AFAIK It's very rare in 2ch/pinkbbs to merge unsuccessful boards once created.
If possible, I recommend to merge wildplus, femnewsplus, dqnplus and ticketplus into one "socialplus" board. They all lack both reporters and residents, and there's no PLUS board that corresponds to socio-news. (we already have political, economic, international, scientific and sport/entertainment ones. Only social one is missing.)
Usually we don't merge boards b/c usually a few (very few, but not zero) residents do exist in any board and there's no harm in keeping unpopulated boards.
I recommend to merge some PLUS boards b/c they need volunteers (CAP) to work correctly, unlike other normal boards.
There is a movement from which I migrate to bbpink in iyachoita now. If bbpimk isn't reprinted, I'm thinking whether I can't move a board of 2ch in sequence.
We have always immigrated board to Pink Channel. Gagame is an example. This current board is taking 3shuchaku which had super light usage and repurposing it on the new aoi.bbspink.com/3shuchaku/ server because that has many resources available. It is basically a new board with things some of the community on fox.2ch.net/poverty/ wanted to change. I am watching it with interest. I think something new will happen there. Not just a migration.
Hey Jim, thanks for taking the time to quarantine those idiots so we don't have to hear the bitching anymore on Kenmo, theoretically speaking. They are free to go now anyway. Apprarently some of them have started to consider allowing afikas sites to copy some threads. as we saw it coming. Hopefully, those morons won't come back but Kenmo will always wecome anybody anytime. (Which doesn't mean noone's gonna beat the shit outta them though). Thanks anyway.
A strange turmoil continues after a name entries of fox.2ch.net/poverty/ changes to I am not Abe. It may be 2ch.s c and the one I do good to afikasu. Wouldn't you like to return it to I am not Abe and see how things are again?
>>827 That is a very good idea. Please wait. I have a new server to replace Pele. Just we have not had time to do the update. It would be good to start talking about the local rules. Then it will be ready.
>>843-san and newsplus residents need urgent change of BBS_NONAME_NAME b/c drunker-san abruptly urged them to vote on the local rule tomorrow, but he cannot change it by himself. Please lend them a hand.
sssp://img.2ch.net/premium/7515292.gif >>827 I should be able to do this on Monday. Why don't you discuss it with the over LiveJ guys and come up with some local rules. That would put you ahead of the game.
sssp://img.2ch.net/premium/7515292.gif >>846 I think we might already have a board like that here. pele.bbspink.com/girls/ Also there is this board. hope.2ch.net/idol/ and this one. anago.2ch.net/geinoj/ I think it is a good idea, but is what you are asking for already available? We could make a board called uraidol or something. Let's discuss it more.
>>847 Thank you for your reply. Please forgive me my lousy English.
foldar name = uraidol BBS_TITLE = AKB salon This new board. How is it?
Our wish is to improve the overcrowding. > pele.bbspink.com/girls/hope.2ch.net/idol/anago.2ch.net/geinoj/ It is not possible to recover the overcrowding in these boards. This is because the resident is not moved. I think when you emigrate If you make a new board.
We will start upgrading pele soon. I am sorry for the inconvenience. We have these three names. nasu.bbspink.com hime.bbspink.com miko.bbspink.com Anyone have anything to comment on them?
Hi, Jim-san. I am ニュー速F(aoi.bbspink.com/3shuchaku/) user. We discussed and voted about setting ID, signboard and 1001.txt. Please change these setting.(^-^)
dear Mr.Jim I'm just only "nanashi", so perhaps I should not say this, but I hope you hear me out.
Mr.Mango and Mr.FOX has do various settings, feature abolition & abolition, and leads Reporter CAP. But they are too administrator-ish. They explains very few. They doesn't think from user's view. As a result, users feels inconvenient and uneasiness, and dispute occurs at various place.
So, I think that 2ch needs a person who can be a "cushion", who can think from user's view, can speak Japanese well, and has skill. Support and (beforehand) check thier work, and make some (beforehand) notice to users, and make document. Accoding as this, users can use 2ch comfortable, settles tha matter quickly, and it can realize improve of PV and decrease Mr.Jim( & Mr.CM )'s time and labor. I hope for your consideration.
Thanks you for reading my awkward english. /* 日本語で書いたほうが良さそうならすぐにでも日本語で書き直します */
I'm >>867. But today I take a matter that is little differ from >>867.
Please read bellow. maguro.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/mango/1421415944/880- This is not English, all of this is written in Japanese. Moreover, it includes " Mouko-ben " that is like a dialect and is mainly used in "/livejupiter/". I can't translate this to English because of my poor English skill. But, I hope to you read this ( if possible, by yourself) .
It's contains access restriction issue and anti crime issue. I think it is very delicate issue that requires careful discussion and judgment of administrators, but it seems to be that Mr.Mango decides all by himself.
Mr.FOX (drunker) changed /moeplus/ board from "萌ニュース＋" to "アイドル＋". This board's target was Anime, Manga(Comics), Game. But He added "IDOL" topic (like AKB48, NMB48 ). And he also changes this board's LR. He did arbitrary.
He ignore reporter and user. A lot of Report and a lot of user are against this change and angry very much. They wants to turn /moeplus/ back before.
Domain "RACEQUEEN.PH" probably seems to be expired. .PH whois server "dot.ph" returns "Domain Name: RACEQUEEN.PH Expires on : February 9, 2015". So I cannot access racequeen.ph with http/smtp. DNS query returns A record "203.119.6.168".
Dear James Arthur Watkins. If I may, I would like to ask you some questions below.
- Why did you contract with janesoft/Jane,Inc ? - Is it possible to get rights of using new API without throughing janesoft/Jane,Inc ? - When it will be stopped that accessing DAT directly? - Do you want to force dedicated browser to showing ads? - Do you want to restrict Normal HTTP access through read.cgi? - What do you think about how to prevent scraping?
Good morning, wow you know my name. How are you today? Tell me more about yourself? What concern is it of you? We are not going to restrict access to 2ch users. That is the important thing.
>>891 Thanks your response. I'm relieved to hear "We are not going to restrict access to 2ch users". If you have time , please come >>892 or >>893's thread.
we dont rely on Mr. Yamasita. becouse he dont explain google adsense with JaneStyle. he pretend the orignal jane developper but he is not the orignal developer of Jane. the orignal Jane is Open Jane, and it is free.
we dont rely on Mr. Yamasita. becouse he dont explain google adsense with JaneStyle. he pretend the orignal jane developer but he is not the orignal developer of Jane. the orignal Jane is Open Jane, and it is free.
I think it is not good idea that Mr. Yamasita has the personally identifiable information of jane programmers
I fervently hope to talk with you. It doesn't matter that public or not, on 2ch bbs or on Skype chat, Japanese or English. If you want, I will tell you my name, mail-address, or what you want before talking. I have wait and I will wait.
Mr. Jim, Mr. Codemonkey and related persons hampered net agents who restricted user posting opinions, especially in the newsplus-board. Thank you very much for it too.
However please desist from wiping out successive browsers. Though I reiterate it, the 2ch is the last standing as for our media. Furthermore, current your enemies are colluding with "Liberal Democratic Party (Japan)" or "National Police Agency" and other bureaucracy. So to speak, you should think it is Japanese government itself. They can upset your rights by twisting the laws if they truly intend to do so. Or they might shut out your hosts from IP addresses, probably pretending something like errors. --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Correction: NPA to urge ISP industry to help site administrators block users of anonymity software" web.archive.org/web/20130419155543/http://mainichi.jp/english/english/newsselect/news/20130418p2a00m0na013000c.html (Mainichi Shinbun's article in English) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Their purpose is the media controlling on net. If you restricted users by alteration of system and the amount of users dwindle, you will play into their hands. In fact, the amount of users plummeted in the bbspink when an alteration was added though I think Mr. Codemonkey knows it well. Once again, you should think Japan is NO LONGER law-ruled state. I am ruing it still yet that my uncareful activity killed the related persons, at least, it is sure as for Mr. Isamu Kaneko of the Winny's Leak Case. Anyway Japanese security police can do clandestinely everything, arson, robbers, rape, murder and so on, out of law.
Quit being Chicken little. The sky is not falling. If you have a problem with Yamashita-san talk to him. He is in the software board. anago.2ch.net/software/ Things are going to be better, not worse.
>>902 I have known Yamashita-san for many years. That is not true. Only pirates will be effected by anything. Normal users and normal browsers will not be.
Hello Jim-san. According to "developer.2ch.net/", "All 2ch browsers" are banned to get 2ch posts from read.cgi. But, developer.2ch.net doesn't mention "2ch.net-related services". Is it allowed that "2ch.net-related services" gets 2ch posts from read.cgi?
Many developers have declared the development stop as fact. Or rather, I don't know 2ch browser to continued development. Perhaps half of the people this state will not have from here.
Just now I've heard that 2ch eco system will drastically change in coming March, and development of browser for the new system is strictlly controlled under your permission. I am just a reader, and not a developer, so I do NOT intend to develop new browser of my own, but I am afraid that many browsers cannot remain after this change - the browser I usually use may disappear.
So I would like to confirm whether you mind/ban the following activities done by users for their own convenience to read 2ch:
1. To read 2ch by general web browsers such as Chrome, Firefox, and etc. 2. To build "add-on" for the above browsers to modify the rendering of 2ch threads. 3. To share such add-on for other uses.
As long as I know, there are no regulation to give web administrators any authorities to ban the users' right to do the above 2 nor 3 in Japan. If you limited access to 2ch such that only permitted browsers could do, the above 1 becomes unable and also the 2 and 3, but I guess you do not hope such closed system.
Anyway, I would like to know your policy for the above, concerning the new 2ch. Could you please let me (and many other users) know your opinion about this?
>>905 Open source based browsers are rejected by Yamashita actually. Pirates don't need dat files, they can also use read.cgi. But dedicated browsers can't escape.
Yamashita will hide fuckin spyware in the new 2ch browser, and SC will continue to steal regardless of the new API. We users will not be able to avoid those hopeless tragedy and being ruled by LIAR JIM with UGLY NISHIMURA.
Jim-san is saying that there are no problem because he already met and talked with developpers of major browsers and they understood everything. But now, many developpers have declared discontinue development of their browsers, and some people mention the reason as that they do not want to obey conditions shown by Yamashita-san, e.g. they should tell their personel information to him, he can command them urgent fix (in 14 days) of their browsers, and etc.
So I wonder whether there is difference between Jim-san's explanation to them and Yamashita-san's one. I think Jim-san should communicate directly with developpers to calm this confusion, because Yamashita-san do not announce any more detailed explanation.
Please let me know if anyone know browser permitted by Yamashita-san other than his Jane Style.
Many OSX user uses V2C. Because not so much options for them.
I think this movement let OSX users get lost ... Some will use browser or some will use AUTHORIZED browser. But most must leave 2ch.net. Because it's very messy to access via web browser or to change 2ch browser.
I predict that after closing .dat access route , Mac boards are going to begin depopulation.
BTW, maybe you don't care about us than we love you... :-(
The developers of normal browsers are imposed on many restrictions by Yamashita.
Firstly, they are forced to send their personal information, such as their real name, address, telephone number and so on, to Yamashita. Some authors (e.g., Jane View, Jane Xeno, 2Live, Twintail) don't want to provide their personal information, so they may stop developing. In fact, some of them already have decleared they don't continue to develop any more. (e.g., qerozon.jp/archives/1725 )
Secondly, because the API key is required to be stored secretly, most of the open-source dedicated browsers will be affected. There are lots of open-source browsers: V2C, ギコナビ(Giko-navi), navi2ch, chaika, BathyScaphe, Thousand, JD, rep2, Freeze Owata+1, etc. They were not able to get the permission of access to the new API duo to the lack of ability to store the key confidentially.
<The Current Status of Main Dedicated Browsers> [Legend] Y: Got the permission of access to the new API. N: Cannot get the permission of access to the new API or announced the end of development. ?: Unknown
Jane: N (An open source browser cannot get the permission) Jane Style: Y (Yamashita's product) Jane View: N (The developer won't provide his information) Jane Xeno: ? (The developer won't provide his information) Jane Clone: ? (The developer won't provide his information) V2C: N (The development has stopped for years.Also, V2C is not an native application, but a Java app.) Twintail: ? (One of the comitter said it's time to quit) Giko-navi: N (The developer won't provide his information. Also, Giko-navi violates BSD license) Zonu: N (The development has stopped for years) Kachu-sya: N (The development has stopped for years) Wakamurasaki: N (Yamashita rejected this app) Andy: N (Yamashita rejected this app) navi2ch: N (Yamashita rejected this app) chaika: N (Yamashita rejected this app) s2ch.net: N (Yamashita rejected this app) iMona: N (Yamashita rejected this app) n2ch.net: N (Yamashita rejected this app) read.js: N (An open source browser cannot get the permission) BathyScaphe: N (An open source browser cannot get the permission) Thousand: N (An open source browser cannot get the permission) JD: N (An open source browser cannot get the permission) rep2: N (An open source browser cannot get the permission) Freeze Owata+1: N (An open source browser cannot get the permission) 2chMate: N (This app supports Hiroyuki's 2ch)
More than 20 browsers will be banished by Yamashita. (>>930) He also makes browser(and it's controversial one), so I can well believe he contrive to exile all other browsers.
Hey, Jim! I made Test Proxy Service for old 2ch's browser which new api can't use or not permit new api. This program use Firefox/Chrome and Those browser display 2ch/pink and convert from browser's displaying HTML to dat file. If you write 2ch/pink, those browser display 2ch/pink and fill the form and post automatically.
I stand for the decision you've made. Some people may complain about it, but please don't feel bad. Haters gonna hate. They seem to fear that most of the 2ch browsers will cease to exist because they don't know what's going on. But in the end, most of the browsers will survive if the developers take the appropriate responses. I'm calling it.
Yamashita does no harm compared to those affiliate matome blogs. In the past few years, tons of them have been founded. I don't care about them making money from advertising. What I hate is that whenever I google something, all I see are those articles reprinted from 2ch with annoying "wwwww" suffix. As you may already know, those strings of "w's" are just like a Japanese version of "lol".
They sometimes even spread false information reprinted from 2ch for advertising revenue, which should not be tolerated. Can you imagine how annoying it would be if your Google search results were full of "lololololol" bullshit? Some affiliate matome blogs are seriously messing with Google search results.
Anyway, I think your decision to implement API in 2ch is a huge step in the right direction. Keep going, Jim!
Are you deceived, Jim? Yamashita announced no specification and no rule last year. Developers made no agreement with Yamashita, but only requested information about new API.
