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925:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/09 22:09:41 i/HHixTV0
>0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49
>50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99
>100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120,121,122,123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141,142,143,144,145,146,147,148,149
>150,151,152,153,154,155,156,157,158,159,160,161,162,163,164,165,166,167,168,169,170,171,172,173,174,175,176,177,178,179,180,181,182,183,184,185,186,187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195,196,197,198,199
>200,201,202,203,204,205,206,207,208,209,210,211,212,213,214,215,216,217,218,219,220,221,222,223,224,225,226,227,228,229,230,231,232,233,234,235,236,237,238,239,240,241,242,243,244,245,246,247,248,249
>250,251,252,253,254,255,256,257,258,259,260,261,262,263,264,265,266,267,268,269,270,271,272,273,274,275,276,277,278,279,280,281,282,283,284,285,286,287,288,289,290,291,292,293,294,295,296,297,298,299
>300,301,302,303,304,305,306,307,308,309,310,311,312,313,314,315,316,317,318,319,320,321,322,323,324,325,326,327,328,329,330,331,332,333,334,335,336,337,338,339,340,341,342,343,344,345,346,347,348,349
>350,351,352,353,354,355,356,357,358,359,360,361,362,363,364,365,366,367,368,369,370,371,372,373,374,375,376,377,378,379,380,381,382,383,384,385,386,387,388,389,390,391,392,393,394,395,396,397,398,399
>400,401,402,403,404,405,406,407,408,409,410,411,412,413,414,415,416,417,418,419,420,421,422,423,424,425,426,427,428,429,430,431,432,433,434,435,436,437,438,439,440,441,442,443,444,445,446,447,448,449
>450,451,452,453,454,455,456,457,458,459,460,461,462,463,464,465,466,467,468,469,470,471,472,473,474,475,476,477,478,479480,481,482,483,484,485,486,487,488,489,490,491,492,493,494,495,496,497,498,499
>500,501,502,503,504,505,506,507,508,509,510,511,512,513,514,515,516,517,518,519,520,521,522,523,524,525,526,527,528,529,530,531,532,533,534,535,536,537,538,539,540,541,542,543,544,545,546,547,548,549
>550,551,552,553,554,555,556,557,558,559,560,561,562,563,564,565,566,567,568,569,570,571,572,573,574,575,576,577,578,579,580,581,582,583,584,585,586,587,588,589,590,591,592,593,594,595,596,597,598,599
>600,601,602,603,604,605,606,607,608,609,610,611,612,613,614,615,616,617,618,619,620,621,622,623,624,625,626,627,628,629,630,631,632,633,634,635,636,637,638,639,640,641,642,643,644,645,646,647,648,649
>650,651,652,653,654,655,656,657,658,659,660,661,662,663,664,665,666,667,668,669,670,671,672,673,674,675,676,677,678,679,680,681,682,683,684,685,686,687,688,689,690,691,692,693,694,695,696,697,698,699
>700,701,702,703,704,705,706,707,708,709,710,711,712,713,714,715,716,717,718,719,720,721,722,723,724,725,726,727,728,729,730,731,732,733,734,735,736,737,738,739,740,741,742,743,744,745,746,747,748,749
>750,751,752,753,754,755,756,757,758,759,760,761,762,763,764,765,766,767,768,769,770,771,772,773,774,775,776,777,778,779,780,781,782,783,784,785,786,787,788,789,790,791,792,793,794,795,796,797,798,799
>800,801,802,803,804,805,806,807,808,809,810,811,812,813,814,815,816,817,818,819,820,821,822,823,824,825,826,827,828,829,830,831,832,833,834,835,836,837,838,839,840,841,842,843,844,845,846,847,848,849
>850,851,852,853,854,855,856,857,858,859,860,861,862,863,864,865,866,867,868,869,870,871,872,873,874,875,876,877,878,879,880,881,882,883,884,885,886,887,888,889,890,891,892,893,894,895,896,897,898,899
>900,901,902,903,904,905,906,907,908,909,910,911,912,913,914,915,916,917,918,919,920,921,922,923,924,925,926,927,928,929,930,931,932,933,934,935,936,937,938,939,940,941,942,943,944,945,946,947,948,949
>950,951,952,953,954,955,956,957,958,959,960,961,962,963,964,965,966,967,968,969,970,971,972,973,974,975,976,977,978,979,980,981,982,983,984,985,986,987,988,989,990,991,992,993,994,995,996,997,998,999,1000
>1-1000>>1000

926:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/09 22:10:05 jYJDwODUO
カリファ初期じゃムチ使いって設定でイバラロードとかいう強力な技使ってたのに
ナミ戦じゃそんなことすっかり無かったことにされてるしｗ
ナミが勝つ時はほんと無理矢理でインチキバトルに感じるわ
ナミの戦闘が不評なのもそのせいだろ

927:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/09 22:10:12 i/HHixTV0
>0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49
>50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99
>100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120,121,122,123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141,142,143,144,145,146,147,148,149
>150,151,152,153,154,155,156,157,158,159,160,161,162,163,164,165,166,167,168,169,170,171,172,173,174,175,176,177,178,179,180,181,182,183,184,185,186,187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195,196,197,198,199
>200,201,202,203,204,205,206,207,208,209,210,211,212,213,214,215,216,217,218,219,220,221,222,223,224,225,226,227,228,229,230,231,232,233,234,235,236,237,238,239,240,241,242,243,244,245,246,247,248,249
>250,251,252,253,254,255,256,257,258,259,260,261,262,263,264,265,266,267,268,269,270,271,272,273,274,275,276,277,278,279,280,281,282,283,284,285,286,287,288,289,290,291,292,293,294,295,296,297,298,299
>300,301,302,303,304,305,306,307,308,309,310,311,312,313,314,315,316,317,318,319,320,321,322,323,324,325,326,327,328,329,330,331,332,333,334,335,336,337,338,339,340,341,342,343,344,345,346,347,348,349
>350,351,352,353,354,355,356,357,358,359,360,361,362,363,364,365,366,367,368,369,370,371,372,373,374,375,376,377,378,379,380,381,382,383,384,385,386,387,388,389,390,391,392,393,394,395,396,397,398,399
>400,401,402,403,404,405,406,407,408,409,410,411,412,413,414,415,416,417,418,419,420,421,422,423,424,425,426,427,428,429,430,431,432,433,434,435,436,437,438,439,440,441,442,443,444,445,446,447,448,449
>450,451,452,453,454,455,456,457,458,459,460,461,462,463,464,465,466,467,468,469,470,471,472,473,474,475,476,477,478,479480,481,482,483,484,485,486,487,488,489,490,491,492,493,494,495,496,497,498,499
>500,501,502,503,504,505,506,507,508,509,510,511,512,513,514,515,516,517,518,519,520,521,522,523,524,525,526,527,528,529,530,531,532,533,534,535,536,537,538,539,540,541,542,543,544,545,546,547,548,549
>550,551,552,553,554,555,556,557,558,559,560,561,562,563,564,565,566,567,568,569,570,571,572,573,574,575,576,577,578,579,580,581,582,583,584,585,586,587,588,589,590,591,592,593,594,595,596,597,598,599
>600,601,602,603,604,605,606,607,608,609,610,611,612,613,614,615,616,617,618,619,620,621,622,623,624,625,626,627,628,629,630,631,632,633,634,635,636,637,638,639,640,641,642,643,644,645,646,647,648,649
>650,651,652,653,654,655,656,657,658,659,660,661,662,663,664,665,666,667,668,669,670,671,672,673,674,675,676,677,678,679,680,681,682,683,684,685,686,687,688,689,690,691,692,693,694,695,696,697,698,699
>700,701,702,703,704,705,706,707,708,709,710,711,712,713,714,715,716,717,718,719,720,721,722,723,724,725,726,727,728,729,730,731,732,733,734,735,736,737,738,739,740,741,742,743,744,745,746,747,748,749
>750,751,752,753,754,755,756,757,758,759,760,761,762,763,764,765,766,767,768,769,770,771,772,773,774,775,776,777,778,779,780,781,782,783,784,785,786,787,788,789,790,791,792,793,794,795,796,797,798,799
>800,801,802,803,804,805,806,807,808,809,810,811,812,813,814,815,816,817,818,819,820,821,822,823,824,825,826,827,828,829,830,831,832,833,834,835,836,837,838,839,840,841,842,843,844,845,846,847,848,849
>850,851,852,853,854,855,856,857,858,859,860,861,862,863,864,865,866,867,868,869,870,871,872,873,874,875,876,877,878,879,880,881,882,883,884,885,886,887,888,889,890,891,892,893,894,895,896,897,898,899
>900,901,902,903,904,905,906,907,908,909,910,911,912,913,914,915,916,917,918,919,920,921,922,923,924,925,926,927,928,929,930,931,932,933,934,935,936,937,938,939,940,941,942,943,944,945,946,947,948,949
>950,951,952,953,954,955,956,957,958,959,960,961,962,963,964,965,966,967,968,969,970,971,972,973,974,975,976,977,978,979,980,981,982,983,984,985,986,987,988,989,990,991,992,993,994,995,996,997,998,999,1000
>1-1000>>1000

928:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/09 22:10:47 i/HHixTV0
>0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49
>50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99
>100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120,121,122,123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141,142,143,144,145,146,147,148,149
>150,151,152,153,154,155,156,157,158,159,160,161,162,163,164,165,166,167,168,169,170,171,172,173,174,175,176,177,178,179,180,181,182,183,184,185,186,187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195,196,197,198,199
>200,201,202,203,204,205,206,207,208,209,210,211,212,213,214,215,216,217,218,219,220,221,222,223,224,225,226,227,228,229,230,231,232,233,234,235,236,237,238,239,240,241,242,243,244,245,246,247,248,249
>250,251,252,253,254,255,256,257,258,259,260,261,262,263,264,265,266,267,268,269,270,271,272,273,274,275,276,277,278,279,280,281,282,283,284,285,286,287,288,289,290,291,292,293,294,295,296,297,298,299
>300,301,302,303,304,305,306,307,308,309,310,311,312,313,314,315,316,317,318,319,320,321,322,323,324,325,326,327,328,329,330,331,332,333,334,335,336,337,338,339,340,341,342,343,344,345,346,347,348,349
>350,351,352,353,354,355,356,357,358,359,360,361,362,363,364,365,366,367,368,369,370,371,372,373,374,375,376,377,378,379,380,381,382,383,384,385,386,387,388,389,390,391,392,393,394,395,396,397,398,399
>400,401,402,403,404,405,406,407,408,409,410,411,412,413,414,415,416,417,418,419,420,421,422,423,424,425,426,427,428,429,430,431,432,433,434,435,436,437,438,439,440,441,442,443,444,445,446,447,448,449
>450,451,452,453,454,455,456,457,458,459,460,461,462,463,464,465,466,467,468,469,470,471,472,473,474,475,476,477,478,479480,481,482,483,484,485,486,487,488,489,490,491,492,493,494,495,496,497,498,499
>500,501,502,503,504,505,506,507,508,509,510,511,512,513,514,515,516,517,518,519,520,521,522,523,524,525,526,527,528,529,530,531,532,533,534,535,536,537,538,539,540,541,542,543,544,545,546,547,548,549
>550,551,552,553,554,555,556,557,558,559,560,561,562,563,564,565,566,567,568,569,570,571,572,573,574,575,576,577,578,579,580,581,582,583,584,585,586,587,588,589,590,591,592,593,594,595,596,597,598,599
>600,601,602,603,604,605,606,607,608,609,610,611,612,613,614,615,616,617,618,619,620,621,622,623,624,625,626,627,628,629,630,631,632,633,634,635,636,637,638,639,640,641,642,643,644,645,646,647,648,649
>650,651,652,653,654,655,656,657,658,659,660,661,662,663,664,665,666,667,668,669,670,671,672,673,674,675,676,677,678,679,680,681,682,683,684,685,686,687,688,689,690,691,692,693,694,695,696,697,698,699
>700,701,702,703,704,705,706,707,708,709,710,711,712,713,714,715,716,717,718,719,720,721,722,723,724,725,726,727,728,729,730,731,732,733,734,735,736,737,738,739,740,741,742,743,744,745,746,747,748,749
>750,751,752,753,754,755,756,757,758,759,760,761,762,763,764,765,766,767,768,769,770,771,772,773,774,775,776,777,778,779,780,781,782,783,784,785,786,787,788,789,790,791,792,793,794,795,796,797,798,799
>800,801,802,803,804,805,806,807,808,809,810,811,812,813,814,815,816,817,818,819,820,821,822,823,824,825,826,827,828,829,830,831,832,833,834,835,836,837,838,839,840,841,842,843,844,845,846,847,848,849
>850,851,852,853,854,855,856,857,858,859,860,861,862,863,864,865,866,867,868,869,870,871,872,873,874,875,876,877,878,879,880,881,882,883,884,885,886,887,888,889,890,891,892,893,894,895,896,897,898,899
>900,901,902,903,904,905,906,907,908,909,910,911,912,913,914,915,916,917,918,919,920,921,922,923,924,925,926,927,928,929,930,931,932,933,934,935,936,937,938,939,940,941,942,943,944,945,946,947,948,949
>950,951,952,953,954,955,956,957,958,959,960,961,962,963,964,965,966,967,968,969,970,971,972,973,974,975,976,977,978,979,980,981,982,983,984,985,986,987,988,989,990,991,992,993,994,995,996,997,998,999,1000
>1-1000>>1000

929:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/09 22:12:16 i/HHixTV0
>0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49
>50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99
>100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120,121,122,123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141,142,143,144,145,146,147,148,149
>150,151,152,153,154,155,156,157,158,159,160,161,162,163,164,165,166,167,168,169,170,171,172,173,174,175,176,177,178,179,180,181,182,183,184,185,186,187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195,196,197,198,199
>200,201,202,203,204,205,206,207,208,209,210,211,212,213,214,215,216,217,218,219,220,221,222,223,224,225,226,227,228,229,230,231,232,233,234,235,236,237,238,239,240,241,242,243,244,245,246,247,248,249
>250,251,252,253,254,255,256,257,258,259,260,261,262,263,264,265,266,267,268,269,270,271,272,273,274,275,276,277,278,279,280,281,282,283,284,285,286,287,288,289,290,291,292,293,294,295,296,297,298,299
>300,301,302,303,304,305,306,307,308,309,310,311,312,313,314,315,316,317,318,319,320,321,322,323,324,325,326,327,328,329,330,331,332,333,334,335,336,337,338,339,340,341,342,343,344,345,346,347,348,349
>350,351,352,353,354,355,356,357,358,359,360,361,362,363,364,365,366,367,368,369,370,371,372,373,374,375,376,377,378,379,380,381,382,383,384,385,386,387,388,389,390,391,392,393,394,395,396,397,398,399
>400,401,402,403,404,405,406,407,408,409,410,411,412,413,414,415,416,417,418,419,420,421,422,423,424,425,426,427,428,429,430,431,432,433,434,435,436,437,438,439,440,441,442,443,444,445,446,447,448,449
>450,451,452,453,454,455,456,457,458,459,460,461,462,463,464,465,466,467,468,469,470,471,472,473,474,475,476,477,478,479480,481,482,483,484,485,486,487,488,489,490,491,492,493,494,495,496,497,498,499
>500,501,502,503,504,505,506,507,508,509,510,511,512,513,514,515,516,517,518,519,520,521,522,523,524,525,526,527,528,529,530,531,532,533,534,535,536,537,538,539,540,541,542,543,544,545,546,547,548,549
>550,551,552,553,554,555,556,557,558,559,560,561,562,563,564,565,566,567,568,569,570,571,572,573,574,575,576,577,578,579,580,581,582,583,584,585,586,587,588,589,590,591,592,593,594,595,596,597,598,599
>600,601,602,603,604,605,606,607,608,609,610,611,612,613,614,615,616,617,618,619,620,621,622,623,624,625,626,627,628,629,630,631,632,633,634,635,636,637,638,639,640,641,642,643,644,645,646,647,648,649
>650,651,652,653,654,655,656,657,658,659,660,661,662,663,664,665,666,667,668,669,670,671,672,673,674,675,676,677,678,679,680,681,682,683,684,685,686,687,688,689,690,691,692,693,694,695,696,697,698,699
>700,701,702,703,704,705,706,707,708,709,710,711,712,713,714,715,716,717,718,719,720,721,722,723,724,725,726,727,728,729,730,731,732,733,734,735,736,737,738,739,740,741,742,743,744,745,746,747,748,749
>750,751,752,753,754,755,756,757,758,759,760,761,762,763,764,765,766,767,768,769,770,771,772,773,774,775,776,777,778,779,780,781,782,783,784,785,786,787,788,789,790,791,792,793,794,795,796,797,798,799
>800,801,802,803,804,805,806,807,808,809,810,811,812,813,814,815,816,817,818,819,820,821,822,823,824,825,826,827,828,829,830,831,832,833,834,835,836,837,838,839,840,841,842,843,844,845,846,847,848,849
>850,851,852,853,854,855,856,857,858,859,860,861,862,863,864,865,866,867,868,869,870,871,872,873,874,875,876,877,878,879,880,881,882,883,884,885,886,887,888,889,890,891,892,893,894,895,896,897,898,899
>900,901,902,903,904,905,906,907,908,909,910,911,912,913,914,915,916,917,918,919,920,921,922,923,924,925,926,927,928,929,930,931,932,933,934,935,936,937,938,939,940,941,942,943,944,945,946,947,948,949
>950,951,952,953,954,955,956,957,958,959,960,961,962,963,964,965,966,967,968,969,970,971,972,973,974,975,976,977,978,979,980,981,982,983,984,985,986,987,988,989,990,991,992,993,994,995,996,997,998,999,1000
>1-1000>>1000

930:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/09 22:12:54 i/HHixTV0
>0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49
>50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99
>100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120,121,122,123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141,142,143,144,145,146,147,148,149
>150,151,152,153,154,155,156,157,158,159,160,161,162,163,164,165,166,167,168,169,170,171,172,173,174,175,176,177,178,179,180,181,182,183,184,185,186,187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195,196,197,198,199
>200,201,202,203,204,205,206,207,208,209,210,211,212,213,214,215,216,217,218,219,220,221,222,223,224,225,226,227,228,229,230,231,232,233,234,235,236,237,238,239,240,241,242,243,244,245,246,247,248,249
>250,251,252,253,254,255,256,257,258,259,260,261,262,263,264,265,266,267,268,269,270,271,272,273,274,275,276,277,278,279,280,281,282,283,284,285,286,287,288,289,290,291,292,293,294,295,296,297,298,299
>300,301,302,303,304,305,306,307,308,309,310,311,312,313,314,315,316,317,318,319,320,321,322,323,324,325,326,327,328,329,330,331,332,333,334,335,336,337,338,339,340,341,342,343,344,345,346,347,348,349
>350,351,352,353,354,355,356,357,358,359,360,361,362,363,364,365,366,367,368,369,370,371,372,373,374,375,376,377,378,379,380,381,382,383,384,385,386,387,388,389,390,391,392,393,394,395,396,397,398,399
>400,401,402,403,404,405,406,407,408,409,410,411,412,413,414,415,416,417,418,419,420,421,422,423,424,425,426,427,428,429,430,431,432,433,434,435,436,437,438,439,440,441,442,443,444,445,446,447,448,449
>450,451,452,453,454,455,456,457,458,459,460,461,462,463,464,465,466,467,468,469,470,471,472,473,474,475,476,477,478,479480,481,482,483,484,485,486,487,488,489,490,491,492,493,494,495,496,497,498,499
>500,501,502,503,504,505,506,507,508,509,510,511,512,513,514,515,516,517,518,519,520,521,522,523,524,525,526,527,528,529,530,531,532,533,534,535,536,537,538,539,540,541,542,543,544,545,546,547,548,549
>550,551,552,553,554,555,556,557,558,559,560,561,562,563,564,565,566,567,568,569,570,571,572,573,574,575,576,577,578,579,580,581,582,583,584,585,586,587,588,589,590,591,592,593,594,595,596,597,598,599
>600,601,602,603,604,605,606,607,608,609,610,611,612,613,614,615,616,617,618,619,620,621,622,623,624,625,626,627,628,629,630,631,632,633,634,635,636,637,638,639,640,641,642,643,644,645,646,647,648,649
>650,651,652,653,654,655,656,657,658,659,660,661,662,663,664,665,666,667,668,669,670,671,672,673,674,675,676,677,678,679,680,681,682,683,684,685,686,687,688,689,690,691,692,693,694,695,696,697,698,699
>700,701,702,703,704,705,706,707,708,709,710,711,712,713,714,715,716,717,718,719,720,721,722,723,724,725,726,727,728,729,730,731,732,733,734,735,736,737,738,739,740,741,742,743,744,745,746,747,748,749
>750,751,752,753,754,755,756,757,758,759,760,761,762,763,764,765,766,767,768,769,770,771,772,773,774,775,776,777,778,779,780,781,782,783,784,785,786,787,788,789,790,791,792,793,794,795,796,797,798,799
>800,801,802,803,804,805,806,807,808,809,810,811,812,813,814,815,816,817,818,819,820,821,822,823,824,825,826,827,828,829,830,831,832,833,834,835,836,837,838,839,840,841,842,843,844,845,846,847,848,849
>850,851,852,853,854,855,856,857,858,859,860,861,862,863,864,865,866,867,868,869,870,871,872,873,874,875,876,877,878,879,880,881,882,883,884,885,886,887,888,889,890,891,892,893,894,895,896,897,898,899
>900,901,902,903,904,905,906,907,908,909,910,911,912,913,914,915,916,917,918,919,920,921,922,923,924,925,926,927,928,929,930,931,932,933,934,935,936,937,938,939,940,941,942,943,944,945,946,947,948,949
>950,951,952,953,954,955,956,957,958,959,960,961,962,963,964,965,966,967,968,969,970,971,972,973,974,975,976,977,978,979,980,981,982,983,984,985,986,987,988,989,990,991,992,993,994,995,996,997,998,999,1000
>1-1000>>1000

931:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/09 22:13:44 i/HHixTV0
>0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49
>50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99
>100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120,121,122,123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141,142,143,144,145,146,147,148,149
>150,151,152,153,154,155,156,157,158,159,160,161,162,163,164,165,166,167,168,169,170,171,172,173,174,175,176,177,178,179,180,181,182,183,184,185,186,187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195,196,197,198,199
>200,201,202,203,204,205,206,207,208,209,210,211,212,213,214,215,216,217,218,219,220,221,222,223,224,225,226,227,228,229,230,231,232,233,234,235,236,237,238,239,240,241,242,243,244,245,246,247,248,249
>250,251,252,253,254,255,256,257,258,259,260,261,262,263,264,265,266,267,268,269,270,271,272,273,274,275,276,277,278,279,280,281,282,283,284,285,286,287,288,289,290,291,292,293,294,295,296,297,298,299
>300,301,302,303,304,305,306,307,308,309,310,311,312,313,314,315,316,317,318,319,320,321,322,323,324,325,326,327,328,329,330,331,332,333,334,335,336,337,338,339,340,341,342,343,344,345,346,347,348,349
>350,351,352,353,354,355,356,357,358,359,360,361,362,363,364,365,366,367,368,369,370,371,372,373,374,375,376,377,378,379,380,381,382,383,384,385,386,387,388,389,390,391,392,393,394,395,396,397,398,399
>400,401,402,403,404,405,406,407,408,409,410,411,412,413,414,415,416,417,418,419,420,421,422,423,424,425,426,427,428,429,430,431,432,433,434,435,436,437,438,439,440,441,442,443,444,445,446,447,448,449
>450,451,452,453,454,455,456,457,458,459,460,461,462,463,464,465,466,467,468,469,470,471,472,473,474,475,476,477,478,479480,481,482,483,484,485,486,487,488,489,490,491,492,493,494,495,496,497,498,499
>500,501,502,503,504,505,506,507,508,509,510,511,512,513,514,515,516,517,518,519,520,521,522,523,524,525,526,527,528,529,530,531,532,533,534,535,536,537,538,539,540,541,542,543,544,545,546,547,548,549
>550,551,552,553,554,555,556,557,558,559,560,561,562,563,564,565,566,567,568,569,570,571,572,573,574,575,576,577,578,579,580,581,582,583,584,585,586,587,588,589,590,591,592,593,594,595,596,597,598,599
>600,601,602,603,604,605,606,607,608,609,610,611,612,613,614,615,616,617,618,619,620,621,622,623,624,625,626,627,628,629,630,631,632,633,634,635,636,637,638,639,640,641,642,643,644,645,646,647,648,649
>650,651,652,653,654,655,656,657,658,659,660,661,662,663,664,665,666,667,668,669,670,671,672,673,674,675,676,677,678,679,680,681,682,683,684,685,686,687,688,689,690,691,692,693,694,695,696,697,698,699
>700,701,702,703,704,705,706,707,708,709,710,711,712,713,714,715,716,717,718,719,720,721,722,723,724,725,726,727,728,729,730,731,732,733,734,735,736,737,738,739,740,741,742,743,744,745,746,747,748,749
>750,751,752,753,754,755,756,757,758,759,760,761,762,763,764,765,766,767,768,769,770,771,772,773,774,775,776,777,778,779,780,781,782,783,784,785,786,787,788,789,790,791,792,793,794,795,796,797,798,799
>800,801,802,803,804,805,806,807,808,809,810,811,812,813,814,815,816,817,818,819,820,821,822,823,824,825,826,827,828,829,830,831,832,833,834,835,836,837,838,839,840,841,842,843,844,845,846,847,848,849
>850,851,852,853,854,855,856,857,858,859,860,861,862,863,864,865,866,867,868,869,870,871,872,873,874,875,876,877,878,879,880,881,882,883,884,885,886,887,888,889,890,891,892,893,894,895,896,897,898,899
>900,901,902,903,904,905,906,907,908,909,910,911,912,913,914,915,916,917,918,919,920,921,922,923,924,925,926,927,928,929,930,931,932,933,934,935,936,937,938,939,940,941,942,943,944,945,946,947,948,949
>950,951,952,953,954,955,956,957,958,959,960,961,962,963,964,965,966,967,968,969,970,971,972,973,974,975,976,977,978,979,980,981,982,983,984,985,986,987,988,989,990,991,992,993,994,995,996,997,998,999,1000
>1-1000>>1000

932:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/09 22:19:01 GY7P2Nav0
次スレです↓

※次スレです※
ワンピース強さ議論と雑談スレ Part68
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(wcomic板)

次スレです↑

933:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 00:15:48 A+/lT9sE0
>>859
>白髭が負けたときは名実ともに最強ではなくなる。
仮に、ティーチの一味が5人がかりでやっとニューゲート1人を倒したとしたら、ニューゲートよりティーチの方が強いと言えるか?

934:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 05:13:06 m0wFbHXRO
世界最強はそげキング

935:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 07:38:51 nY09XAH00
>>933
ハッキリとした描写さえあれば
５人で戦って敵１人に勝った→５人のうちの１人が敵１人より強い、という図式も十分にあり得る。

前にも書いてるが、戦闘描写があった場合、その時点から強さを考察できる。
仮に白髭がティーチに勝ったとしても、描写によっては白髭がエネルやクザンの下に位置される可能性もあるし、
ともすれば倒したティーチより下にランクされることだってある。

ティーチ一味(複)に白髭(単)が戦闘描写無しで負けた場合、
描写が無いため、不意打ち・毒殺等の特殊ケースと正面衝突の両方の可能性を考慮しなければならない。
加えて「複ｖｓ単」であるためティーチ一味それぞれのキャラを他キャラと比較出来ないので描写(回想等)があるまで順位変動は無い。
仮にティーチ(単)に白髭(単)が戦闘描写無しで負けた場合、
やはり描写無しで戦法が不明なため、不意打ち・毒殺等の特殊ケースと一騎打ち両方の可能性を考慮しなければならない。
この場合は白髭の「世界最強の男」設定が覆された可能性を含むため、白髭の強さを考察する有力な情報が「四皇」の格のみとなる。
ということは未描写キャラ扱いになり、
・考察出来ないためランキングから外される
・シャンクス等、未描写の四皇と同じ位置に収まる
ルール上、このどちらかになるのが妥当かと思う。

936:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 08:08:18 nY09XAH00
そんなことよりオーズどうするよ？
１人で全員倒しちゃったぞｗ

937:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 16:04:57 vX2Vg9UgO
鉄を斬るっていうけど
普通に斬るのがメタル斬りで、ししそんそんが魔神斬りみたいなもんだよね

938:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 16:07:39 JF8mnGmr0
まぁそうだな

939:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 18:11:20 wnMBbRbN0
もしかしてゾロ厨涙目？

940:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 19:01:53 BX7GitwR0
そうだなこのままゾロ立ち上がれずルフィがオーズを何とかしてしまったならちょっとショックだなｗ
マジでゾロだけ必要性がなくなるからな。

941:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 19:04:41 nY09XAH00
涙目かなんてどうでもいいけど、あの巨体で剃使えるのがわかっちまったな。
敏捷性も普通サイズの人間と大差無いようだし、わかってるだけでもスペックが凄いことになるぞ。
Ｂ＋は確実じゃないか？

942:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 19:06:37 JF8mnGmr0
AかS-でも全然おかしくない

943:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 19:08:16 wnMBbRbN0
オーズをＢにして他を格下げにした方がよい

944:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 19:11:33 XEreTmh40
なあ久しぶりに見たんだけど、
ロビンがゾロサンジより強いって言い張ってた可哀想な子はどうなった？w

945:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 19:12:11 wEHLhFlJ0
うん、ロギアと同列はないよ

946:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 19:18:34 BX7GitwR0
問題はアレだけ巨大なゾンビに雷や氷が効果あるかだな

947:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 19:21:07 wnMBbRbN0
エネルくらいならなんとかしそうと思えるのがやばい

948:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 19:23:34 nY09XAH00
参考になるのは空島のウワバミくらいか・・・。
参考つってもサイズの参考にしかならないけど。
ヤツには効いたな。

949:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 19:24:27 wEHLhFlJ0
現にオーズは氷付けだったんじゃない？
氷らせてカチわれば終わり

950:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 19:30:46 JF8mnGmr0
オーズは氷漬け状態で動き始めたから氷は効かない気がする
雷も痛みがないんなら効かないんでないか
砂、煙も決め手がなくて引き分けだろうし、負けるとしたらエースぐらい
勝てもしないけど負けもしないって感じじゃないか？
黒髭相手にも相性的には最高だろうし

951:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 19:36:30 nY09XAH00
クザンの氷は冷気の程が不明だから考察不可かな。
エネルギー量だけ考えれば雷＞＞＞＞＞火なんだから、
どっちも延々当て続ければいつか消し炭になるだろ。
砂は切断系と枯渇系の技があったし、なんとかなるかもしれない。
煙は勝負つかないかな。黒髭は勝てないなｗ

まぁオーズの防御力がわからないから全部予測だけどな。

952:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 19:40:22 tYHK8ES00
オーズは凍らされて死んだんじゃなくて死んでから凍ったんだろ

953:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 19:40:30 6UAYzCnI0
こういうつまらない話になるのわかりきってるんだから
もうロギアランキングからはずせよ

954:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 19:48:28 nY09XAH00
とりあえずは考察できてるんだし、外すまでしなくても。

955:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 19:52:35 JF8mnGmr0
残りの四皇とか七武海とか大将とかその他（ドラゴンとか）が全部ロギアなわけないし
ロギアの攻略法を尾田は用意してるはずなんだがなかなか書いてくれないからなぁ

956:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 19:54:20 6UAYzCnI0
これを考察ってｗｗ
ロギアの攻撃が効くかどうかって事だけ話し合ってるだけだろｗｗｗ
攻撃無効のロギアの考察なんて誰と戦わせてもサンドバックVS火・氷・砂・雷・煙
ってだけの話だろ
SSSでランクトップに持っていって実質除外でok

957:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 19:59:57 nY09XAH00
こと対戦相手に関しては確かにギャグだけどｗ
とりあえず攻撃範囲とか速度とかわかってる部分もあるしね。
ランク内でも実質除外みたいな扱いだし、以下のランクには勝てるのはわかってるんだし
何よりロギアへ対抗出来るキャラが出てきた今、このままで特に問題無いと思う。

958:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 20:04:21 pgo73lT00
>>955
愛じゃね
ガープが愛ある拳はゴムでも関係なく殴れるみたいだから

959:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 21:32:28 9rdxwXOdO
[sage]
>>957
天敵じゃないのにロギアに対抗出来るキャラがどこにいるのか

誰かスレ立ててくれ

960:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 21:34:14 lZnrkC3h0
※次スレです※
ワンピース強さ議論と雑談スレ Part68
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(wcomic板)

961:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 21:38:34 yuuoDghx0
>>959
ミホークの黒刀は海楼石の刀だぞ？
悪魔の実は無意味

で、お前の文の最初の[sage] って何？
ギャグ？

サゲたきゃ、「E-mail (省略可) : 」のトコに書くんだぞ？

962:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 21:46:21 wnMBbRbN0
※ミホークの刀は海楼石ではありませんあしからず

963:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 21:57:16 nY09XAH00
>>959
かなり特殊ではあるけど限りなく可能性を秘めたペローナ。
今後の描写次第だが影さえあれば何とかなるかもしれないモリア。
それからティーチの描写によっては「ロギアは原則Ａ」が外される恐れもある。
不安定な要素が多いから、今はまだ無闇に別枠にしたりするべきじゃない。

>>961
ミホークのそれ、マジ？

964:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 22:00:44 ZO2DKLr40
またゾロが負けたのか
ミホーク戦の誓いから何敗目？

965:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 22:02:22 wnMBbRbN0
剣士じゃないからいいんだとさ

966:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 22:06:27 lZnrkC3h0
>>961
そんな記述は一切ない。

967:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 22:09:32 yuuoDghx0
今にわかるよ　ｸｽｸｽ・・・

968:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 22:13:09 wnMBbRbN0
きもッ

969:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 22:14:08 nY09XAH00
今にわかるんじゃダメだ、未描写のモノは考慮できない。

970:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 22:25:58 tzyBbsJ2O
ミホークがロギアに対処できるかどうかわからないまま
ゾロにやられて物語から退場となった場合、
やはりランクとしてはロギアより下に置かれるんだよな？

971:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 22:32:34 lZnrkC3h0
なんもロギアに対する対抗策がない場合はそうなるだろうね。

ただゾロがミホークに勝つなんて、あと何年待てばいいんだか。

972:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 22:40:07 nY09XAH00
>>970
そだよ。

973:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 22:41:23 mCfFHK2w0
当然、シャンクス達もだな

974:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 22:41:51 z9h7XERe0
ゾロ：あいつに勝って大剣豪になる日まで　絶対にもう　俺は負けねェ！！
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. ／　／￣| ,=| |=､|￣ヾ　　／　＿＿＿＿ヽ
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|￣l￣￣　 __　|.　　　￣ｌ￣.| _|　-|　,=|=､ ||
|.￣|￣￣　　`Y⌒l__￣ﾉ￣ (6.　　ｰっ-´､}
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　 >〓〓〓〓〓〓-ｲ　　　／ヽ　　人_（　ヽ
／　　／　　Θ　ヽ｜　　/　　￣￣￣ヽ-ｲ

975:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 23:00:49 zswKGkgyO
オーズだってスモーカーにダメージすら与えることできないんだよな

ロギアなんか作らなきゃよかったのにね

976:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/10 23:49:10 7Ndia6K70
この流れ、どう見てもゾロが単独で
「こんなにも激強いんですよオーズさん」を倒して
ゾロさんつおいよキャンペーンな流れじゃん。

977:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/11 00:00:17 hHyQ+jo00
オーズほど強くてもロギア系にまるで歯が立たない。
つまりこのマンガに強さ議論なんて必要ない

978:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/11 00:01:02 hHyQ+jo00
オーズってかっこいいですよね～

979:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/11 00:01:42 hg94B5v/0
オーズがいくら強くてもロギア系には勝てないって言ってもだな。
ロギア系以外にはオーズはかなり強いわけだから、いいんじゃないか？

980:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/11 00:02:19 hHyQ+jo00
でもロギアは強すぎるのう。

981:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/11 01:47:19 xQwZDg9N0
カイロウセキのネックレスとかしてたら余裕

982:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/11 02:16:38 nNr+D/atO
オーズはスモーカーを吸える。
そして副流煙を吐く。

983:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/11 02:19:19 80OElzHmO
でもオーズの戦いにはあまり興味が湧かない

984:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/11 04:15:03 KsRjdHr+O
そげにはロギアもオーズも誰もかなわない　
そげが一番そげ最強！

985:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/11 04:53:50 n3MLbknY0
戦いは相性なのよ！このスレ終了！

986:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/11 05:14:57 GLkUqHK00
オーズ最強だろ

987:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/11 05:40:33 IFmmQA+MO
でもルフィと同じ食欲なら餓死せんのかね？

988:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/11 05:54:59 ypD+e4Lz0
>>987
オーズはゾンビって知ってた？

989:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/11 06:11:21 z6mrM2Fo0
オーズに海楼石の鎧や武器を持たせりゃ、ロギアにだって勝てるだろ
靴に仕込めば、普通に踏み潰せるだろうしさ

エネルvsワイパー戦を見るに、
少しでも海楼石に触れてりゃ、悪魔の実の能力は完全に無効化する

それを考えると、
ウソップやフランキーが海楼石製の弾丸とかを撃ち込めば、
ロギアにだって普通に当たるんだよな

990:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/11 06:53:03 6KEbGZlU0
>>989
所詮たらればの話だな。
そりゃ軍が一般兵器に海楼石を運用させれば能力者なんて即座に雑魚化するけど。

991:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/11 07:04:11 uY/uSEH+0
カイロウセキの希少性がわからん。
大佐クラスでさえ十手の先に持つ程度なのに軍艦は船底に敷き詰められてるみたいだし。

992:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/11 07:40:24 6KEbGZlU0
軍は豊富な資金である程度自由に確保できるが、一般家庭に広く普及するにはまだ高い。
こっちで言うチタンみたいなモンかな？

993:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/11 07:49:31 wKbQ17dp0
たらればの話するなら、

アブサロムが海楼石持って能力者の寝込み襲えば最強だろうな。
誰も気づかないだろ。

994:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/11 07:53:20 6KEbGZlU0
どうだろ？サンジは気配読んでたしな。
大将とか四皇あたりは寝てても察知しそうな気がする。
ホントどーでもいー話ｗ

995:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/11 07:59:03 wKbQ17dp0
最初から透明なら、なんか妙な気配しても気づかなくない？
まぁ覇気やられたら駄目そうだけどさ。

996:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/11 09:24:41 6KEbGZlU0
うめ

997:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/11 09:29:44 6KEbGZlU0
生め

998:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/11 09:30:47 6KEbGZlU0
産め

999:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/11 09:31:05 eu8K0Gbs0
まめ

1000:名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい
07/09/11 09:31:26 6KEbGZlU0
うめ

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